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clinton. bill clinton. in the 1980 republican primary george bush had moment against ronald reagan, until in the debate in new hampshire, there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> i am paying for this microphone. >> that moment helped change the mpaign. >> some o some of them you c cr. >> read my lip no new taxes. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, lipstick. >> other ones, you got to depend on your candidate seizing a moment you didn't expect to happen. >> there you go again. >> most moments so f this election have been poorly phrased comments. >> if you've got a business, you didn't build that. somebody else made that happen. >> i like being able to fire people that provide services to me. >> they'll put y'all back in chains. >> the media call those gaffes, but often the media don't know. when ed musky lost the '072 primary because he looked like he teared up defending his wife, everyone said candidates can't career, because at's week, but then in 2008 hillary clinton cried. >> you know, i have so many opportunities from this country. >> she began to tear up.

, by the way, as you know, when tip o'neill was the speaker of the house and ronald reagan was the president of the united states, and they worked together on a very important and significant tax reform. we believe that it's time for that again and that you can do that working across the aisle. obviously governor romney, if he becomes president, would hope to have republican majorities in the house and the senate, but you would have to work across the aisle, and we believe it can be done and there are six studies that show it can. >> but the promise that takes precedence and i do want to move on is about not increasing the deficit. you heard robert gibbs talk about big bird and the targeting of big bird by governor romney. coming out of that pbs cited poll showing it's the most trusted public institution and it only takes about 0.01% of the federal budget and not seeing big bird show up. was it a mistake to target him? >> george, it wasn't a targeting. it was a, you know, just pointing to one example. as you know, governor romney would move us toward a balanced budget with a 5% cut in nonsec

-century, 1980 with the election of ronald reagan in 1994 was newt gingrich revolution sweeping control the house away from the democrats. so in a way conservatism is appearing only in the last act of 20th-century politics, and the rest of it was dominated and deeply formed by liberalism itself. all the alluvial celts from this stream of liberalism deposited itself and barack obama's formation. the crisis of liberalism is a obama's crisis, and so rather than, as i do in the book, a spiny and criticizing each wave or each stage of the liberal advance i thought it better today to concentrate on obama's on the appropriation of them. i think my book is the first to put the story of american liberalism between two covers and to take seriously barack obama's culminating or at any rate critical part in it. now, to begin with obama calls himself a progressive. he said this in the 2008 campaign, as did hillary clinton interestingly. they would prefer to be called progressive liberal. now, who are the progress is? well, following woodrow wilson, the progressive movement copperas a school wycherley believed

debate. nixon was better in the second, gerald ford came back, ronald reagan came back after the disaster. and one assumes that president obama is doing the homework to make sure it happens. >> so johnathan, giving what larry describes here, does this mean the president has to come back and do just a solid debate performance or does he have to blow the socks off this one? >> just a solid performance. you know, he does have a lead, he lost, at most, two points. one to two points out of this last week, so he is going to be going in at this next debate, unless something else happens, which is not likely. you know, with a four-point lead, possibly. so if he can just deliver a solid performance, he will be fine. the danger for him is over compensating. so they talked about al gore, when he was sighing, and demeanor was not good, gore over-compensated again in the third debate, so that is something that people who have had a poor debate performance have to worry about. >> larry, i want to ask you about this very quickly, the next debate style will be town hall. we talked about how the president

's reagan?" you have got to be kidding. the reality is no, he's not ronald reagan. ronald reagan had core values. you saw those in the debates. you saw that in his life. i don't think barack obama has core values at all. he listens to whoever is talking to him and espouses the talking points. is barack obama ronald reagan? i know ronald reagan. he was my father and friend. barack is no ronald reagan thank god. megyn: we had scott on a couple weeks ago when he was one of the lone pollsters showing this a tight race. whenever that seems to happen, scott, they seem to take shots at you as somebody who is not reliable and does haven't good polls. even though -- even though now all these polls are showing what you are showing -- the republicans put out today a list of the polls that show this race tightening and it's across the pollsters showing this race tightening in all the states you mention. despite here, here is what chuck todd said about you. >> we spent a lot more money polling than scott rasmussen does. >> he was right the last couple elections. >> he got it right at the end. you guys

. >> do you have the specifics? >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill and dead. the work together to lower tech -- looking but ronald reagan and tip o'neill dead. -- did. we raise about $1.20 trillion to income taxes. we forgo about $1.10 trillion in loopholes and deductions. denied those loopholes and deductions to hire in, tax payers. so we can lower tax rates across the board. >> i hope i am going to get time to respond. >> we want to work with congress on how best to achieve this. >> no specifics. >> lower tax rate 20%. start with the wealthy. >> you guarantee that this matter will add up. -- math adds up. >> let me have a chance to translate. i was there with ronald reagan. he gave specifics in terms of tax expenditures. 97% of the small businesses pay less than -- make less than $250,000. adds funds -- hedge funds that makes $600 million a year. let's look at how sincere they are. governor romney, 10 days ago, was asked, you pay 14% on $20 million. someone making $50,000 paid more than that. do think that is fair? he said, yes, that is fair. you think these guys are going to

. >> it has never been done before. >> ronald reagan -- >> the gloves come off in tonight's vice presidential debate. you saw it. things got heated between the vice president and the man who wants his job. good evening. i'm julie haener. >> welcome to a special edition of our news. this was a very different debate compare to the first presidential debate. with congressman paul ryan and job job fighting it out in their first and only debate of the election season. we have live team coverage. rita williams is with bay area republicans. rob rortsdz is with the democrats. we begin with the high and low moments from the debate. >> there were questions about whether joe biden would come out more aggressively after many said president barack obama failed to live up to expectations last week. we certainly saw that tonight as both the vice president and paul ryan went back and forth first over iran seeking a nuclear weapon. >> it makes us more weak. it projects weakness. when we look weak, or adversaries are much more willing to test us. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of ma larky. >> why is t

of that but in contrast to some of those previous cases where an incumbent had problems in the rstebe. ronald reagan in 1984 lost his train of thought if his first statement. gwen: on the pacific coast highway. >> right. and it gave rise to questions as if he was too old. this was a case that i thought from start to finish governor romney was the dominant character in the debate. he was much more forceful so in that sense its it was a much more decisive ca of seby someb losing. >> there wasn't that single moment that memorable you're no jack kennedy kind of putdown. it was very strong substantive. in fact, the president said this was afic he might not have thought that later whether he got to reviews. >> if you look at romney's opening statements, he touched alheeed to. he talked about voters in ohio and nevada. i feel your pain. gwen: told stories. >> told stories. he did the five things he's running on. he talked about the president's past. respectfully said it wasn't going in the right direction. then 0 minutes later after a good cut and thrust between the two of them he delivered a near-flawles

years old. in 1965, i went to work making men's dress pants. when ronald reagan got into office, he started regulating everything. before he got out of office, missouri was losing its shoe factories. in 1991, our factory closed and sold as several others. -- and so did several others. these people are not for the american people. they are out for the rich people in this country and i think it is sad when a democrat gets into office, they turn into bullies. they don't want the democrats to get a thing done. i think it is so pathetic. they are getting paid to work for this country and instead they are just a bunch of bullies. host: what about her sentiment? guest: i think vice president joe biden is interested in these issues. one thing he has worked and in the by president say is a task force or a commission -- in the vice presidency is a task force to work on this. these issues about jobs being exported and jobs leaving and about diminished security for the middle-class -- the questions that joe biden has thought a lot about. at a general level, he would be quite comfortable talking

in a republican congress. >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to broaden the base and lower tax rates. what we're saying is, here is our frame work. lower taxes 20%. 1.1 million in loopholes and deductions. deny those loopholes and deductions to higher-income taxpayers so more income is taxed, which has a broader base of taxation. and here is why i'm saying this. what we're saying -- >> i hope i get time to respond to this? >> you will get time. >> we want to work with congress, that means specifically. >> no specific. >> what we're saying is lower tax rates 20%. >> and you guarantee this math will add up. >> six studies have guaranteed and said this math adds up. >> let me translate. >> i'll come back in a second, right? >> i was there when ronald reagan you gave tax rates, he gave specifics of what he would cut in terms of taxan expenditures. 90% of small businesses in america make less than 250,000. let me tell you who other small businesses are. hedge funds, that make $600, $800 million a year. that will count as small business. let's look how sincere

agreements-- >>> do you have the specifics? >> look at what -- look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together out of a frame work to lower tax rates and broaden the base and fix na. we are saying, here's our frame work, lower tax rates 20%. we raised $1.2 trillion in income taxes and forego $1.1 trillion in loophole deductions. we are saying, deny the loopholes and deductions to higher-income taxpayers, so more of their income is taxed -- >> can i translate? >> to lower the tax rates across the board. what we are saying -- >> i hope i get time to respond-- >>> you will get time. >> we want to work with congress on how best to achieve this. >> martha: no specifics? >> lower tax rates 20%, start with the wealthy. work with congress to do it? >> martha: you guarantee this math will add up. >> six studies have guaranteed and verified. >> martha: vice-president -- [overlapping dialogue] >> let me translate. let me have a chance to translate. >> first of all, i was there when ronald reagan tax rates and he gave specifics of what he was going to cut, number 1 nterms of tax expe

ronald reagan gave specifics to what he was going to cut in terms of tax expenditures. 97% of small-business americans paid -- make less than $250,000. amid tell you who some of the other small businesses are. hedge funds that make a hundred million dollars a year. that is what they call as small business. gov. romney on 60 minutes about 10 days ago was asked, you pay 14% on $20 million. somebody making $50,000 face more than that. he said that is fair. that is fair. do you think these guys are going to go out there and cut the loopholes? the biggest loophole they take advantage of is the carriage entrance loophole and the capital gains loophole. the reason that the american enterprise study, the tax policy center study all say taxes will go up on the middle-class is it is the only way you can find at $5 trillion and loopholes as to cut the mortgage deduction for middle-class people, take away their ability to get a tax break to send their kids to college. >> is he wrong about that? >> he is wrong about that. and cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve important preferences for midd

bipartisan agreement. >> do you have the specifics? >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. we raise about $1.20 trillion through income taxes. we forgo about $1.10 trillion in loopholes and deductions. deny those loopholes and deductions to higher income tax payers. so we can lower tax rates across the board. >> i hope i am going to get time to respond. >> we want to work with congress on how best to achieve this. >> no specifics. >> lower tax rate 20%. start with the wealthy. >> you guarantee that this math adds up. >> let me have a chance to translate. i was there with ronald reagan. he gave specifics in terms of tax expenditures. 97% of the small businesses make less than $250,000. hedge funds that make $600 million a year. let's look at how sincere they are. governor romney on "60 minutes," 10 days ago, was asked, you pay 14% on $20 million. someone making $50,000 pays more than that. do think that is fair? he said, yes, that is fair. you think these guys are going to cut those loopholes? the biggest loophole they take advantage of is that carried interest loophole and cap

or became. um, the big issue, the big change began in 1980, of course, with the election of ronald reagan because ronald reagan brought with him to washington, um, a very underrated figure in recent american history, someone who i don't think gets his due as an important person, and that's edwin meese. because edwin meese at first as an adviser and then as attorney general said, look, there has been a liberal ayen da at the supreme court -- agenda at the supreme court, there needs to be a conservative agenda at the supreme court. what was that agenda? expand executive power, end racial preferences intended to assist african-americans, speed up execution, welcome religion into the public sphere and, above all, um, reverse roe v. wade and allow states once again to ban abortion. a big part of the reagan revolution, um, was the arrival in washington of a group of young and committed conservative lawyers who wanted to work in that, on behalf of that agenda. who were two of the best and brightest of that group? john roberts and samuel alito. 197 finish -- in 1985 in a memo plotting litigation

a better debater? >> there have been. lou: i am curious. >> ronald reagan. lou: he lost in the first one. >> two out of three from walter mondale. lou: maybe this is a new level. i just want to see how stingy they are with their praise. i think he blew the doors off. >> he had the night of his life. he did. and barack obama i thought had been decent but not great. he does things well. debating is not one of them. lou: does he get better? >> no. he keeps the head down who are the lowlifes challenging me? i think that is the arrogance coming out. he does not seem to enjoy a the political process more to be anointed. >> i would say i would concede the mitt romney that showed up last tuesday is the real one. i think there will be much more aggression in going forward. >> just a second. i want to go back to you this reading the social that. >> i apologize. [laughter] lou: you are running from the safety net? >> you are a clever political strategist. >> the obama argument has to be the romney tax cuts are real and will result in social programs being cut. lou: but today three days after the co

of that debate wednesday night. >> big. think john kennedy of 1960, think ronald reagan in 1980. it's possibly that big because the president seemed to be on a glide path towards re-election and all of a sudden here comes the raging bull, mitt romney, out of the dark and they run for the safety exits instead of counterpunches and getting him hard. what happened to barack obama? i'm not certain. i don't know. but i know this, if he comes to the next two debates with the same demeanor and passive resistance, he's losing. >> you called it one of the worst performances of the time? >> one of the most inept performances by an incumbent president i've ever seen. i'm mystified. we do know these things about barack obama. we know he doesn't like to confront people. we know that -- chris: he doesn't like to fight with hillary clinton. >> he doesn't like to. he's really worried about appearing angry in public and that really isn't his natural demeanor but that was unilateral disarmament and was stunning. when mitt romney gives you an opening to talk about romney's accountant and doesn't say you have a t

bush is that he is not ronald reagan. >> largely as result of policies and priorities of the reagan administration, more people are becoming poorer and staying for than any time since world war ii. >> if there's anything left of ronald reagan's trickle-down theory, it seems to be anxiety which seems to be trickling down to just about every segment of our society. >> if you gave clarence thomas all little flower, you would think -- here is a man who is against everything that has lifted the level of life of millions of blacks. >> i hope his wife feeds him mustard eggs and butter and he dies like many black men, of heart disease. that so i feel. he is a reprehensible person. >> you call to gingrich in your words trickle down terrorists who face their agenda on division, exclusion and fear. you think middle-class americans need protection from that group? >> the new republican majority took a big step today on the legislative agenda, to demolish or damage government aid programs. many of them designed to help children and the poor. >> the bombing in oakland the city has focused renewed

has done with jimmy carter -- jump away from it. i could not do that to ronald reagan now, next year, or any other time. i have too much trust in him, too much friendship for him, and i would feel very uncomfortable doing it. >> some republicans have criticized mr. mondale for saying he disagreed privately with jimmy carter's decision to impose a grain embargo. have you ever disagreed with any decision of the reagan administration and its inner circles? following that up, where in your judgment as loyalty and and principal begin? >> i owe my president my judgment, and i owe him loyalty. you cannot have the president of the united states out there looking over his shoulder wondering whether his vice- president is going to be supporting him. mrs. ferraro has quite a few differences with vice president mondale, and i understood it when she changed her position on tax credits and buses and to extend the grain embargo. he now says he was against it. if they win, and i hope they don't, but if they win, she will have to accommodate some views, but she will give him the same kind of loyalty

and cutting back on nuclear weapons and see what ronald reagan has been able to do with the inf treaty and i think he deserves great credit with that one. i see a situation where the senator from indiana has now jumped off the reservation, when we talk about building on what ronald reagan has done and opposes what ronald reagan wants to do, the joint chiefs of staff and the secretary of defense and says let's go slow on further disarmament in trying to get the next treaty. i think that's a mistake. i think that you have to deal with the russians from strength and we have to understand that you have to have a strong modernized nuclear deterrent, but i think we can make substantial progress and we ought to take advantage. i think he's arrived at a very dangerous judgment in the question of war and peace and it concerns me very much. because i saw him also try to sabotage the inf treaty when it was on the floor of the united states senate with what he was doing there. he's listening once again to the winds of the radical right. >> senator. >> my light was still on, judy. >> john margolis, a que

, when you are president, and this is why ronald reagan lost his first debate and why president george w. bush lost his first reelection debate, it has been four years. anybody has gotten in your grill. nobody tells you what you think. he is not used to it. but the president almost seriously -- physically was taken aback as romney went at it. the romney folks knew months ago that the debate prep would be the manhattan project of their campaign. that was where they would flip the switch if they had any possibility to. we saw a romney moved -- who his family had been encouraging the campaign to let him be more of himself, less scripted. we saw him all come out. he has to do with two more times. there are a number of countries that will tell you you only get one single attack. [laughter] to apologize to any of the ambassadors of our exalted -- insulted. charlotte -- charlie mentioned new jersey leno. it abused me hearing the obama's cams series of excuses. david letterman did the top 10 excuses. number 5 was mitt romney's here is mesmerizing. number 2 was asked osama bin laden how i did. nu

have the specifics? do you know what you are doing? >> ryan: look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to lower tax rates and broaden the base and worked together to fix that. we're saying here is our framework, lower tax rates about 20% -- we forgo about $1.1 trillion in loop holes and deductions so what we're saying is deny those loophole and deductions to higher income taxpayers so more of their income is taxed -- >> biden: can i translate. >> ryan: so we can lower tax rates across the board -- >> biden: i hope i'm going to get time to respond -- >> you'll get time. >> ryan: we want to work on how to achieve this -- >> no specifics, then. >> ryan: lower tax rates 20%, start with the wealthy -- >> can you guarantee this math will add up. >> ryan: six studies have verified that this will add up -- >> vice president biden. >> biden: let me have a chance to translate. ronald reagan gave specifics to what he was going to cut number one in terms of tax expenditures. number two 90% of the small businesses in america make less than

. that was ronald reagan, who won the election with a rate of 7.4%. so, the question is, can mr. obama win one like the giper or is the number still bad enough to doom his hopes? well, cue mitt romney. that's what happened today. his team is furiously pointing out how many people are underemployed. last month's household survey found 582,000 of the jobs created involved part time workers who wanted to be full time. plus, no one should forget all the people who have stopped looking for work. romney says this new number or not is not what a recovery looks like. >> the truth is, if the same share of people were participating in the workforce, today is on the day the president got elected, our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> "outfront" tonight, ali velshi, ethan and a former staff member for president obama's national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform, daniel mitchell, senior fellow at the cato institut alan, the numbers sound good. are they? >> i don't care. i'm going to go one further than erin. not only does the absolute number of the unemployment percentage not matter. i don'

1980s until success of ronald reagan became clear. as a young man, obama suffered a kind of '60s envy. he missed out on the civil rights movement, and on the new left. but he determined to experience them vicariously. and so he tried drugs, as he confesses in his autobiography. he rallied against south africa, he gave political speeches, he community organized, he tried to get in touch with the black experience, and in general, he searched for meaning to use a formulation that he would not reject. in other words, he very much shared the '60s mood that everyone must find his own meaning in life. and find his own way in life. because there's no meaning out there, there's no objective source of meaning that one can point to or rely on. he shared the right to make history rather than to let it happen or trust it to redeem in justice in the own good time. and as well obama, i think, shared the post modernist suspicious that universal values, as he sometimes calls them, are not universal, and probably not true in any objective sense. one can see these ideas at work in dreams for my for, the

they will have as much as ronald reagan did, he's going to do bet. >> i felt that for a long time. >> well, the wives of course in in race have high approval rating and favor ann romney and favor michelle obama, the wives are a huge asset. >> and president obama was off the campaign trail yesterday and finally celebrating his wedding anniversary, as you know fell on the night of the debate. so mitt romney was unencumbered on the campaign trail. there was no response that the president could give to anything that mitt romney did. and mitt romney seemed to energize after the debate. >> every year the median income has gone down, 4,300 a family ab with average family income around 50,000 bucks, that hurts. gasoline prices are up twice what they used to be. these are tough years for the middle class and for the poor in america. and if we calculate it, by the way, our unemployment rate in a way that was consistent with the way it was calculated when he came into office, be a different number. if the number of people shall the percentage of the american population in the work force were the same

debate since 1980 when ronald reagan ran against carter, and there was only one debate that year. >> a week before the election. >> that was the first time in the last 100 years republicans took out an incumbent. the one that this debate in terms of viewership tied with was in 1992 when clinton ran against bush. again, when an incumbent was being taken out. the reason so many people tuned in is because they know obama's taking the country in the wrong direction. they know they're underemployed. i don't care what number the obama administration gets flashed up on a tv screen, they know they're out of work, and they wanted to see if they're comfortable with the challenger. not only were they comfortable, they'll keep being comfortable. the reason romney is going to keep doing very well in the debates is because you never get to see him. the media tells us, you know, gives us snippets, paraphrase, in other words what he was trying to say is. let's see what he said. >> sean: if you want to look at polls -- we're still 29 days out. four weeks in a campaign we all agree is an eternity,

improvement in the unemployment numbers since ronald reagan ran for reelection in 1984. remember the morning in america thing, twon hat's e debate, but president obama won the post debate. at least it seemed that way for these last few days. then today back down to earth for democrats. we started getting in the first solid round of polling that reflected the results of the debate. and however, well the obama campaign did in managing the post debate spin and the post debate campaigning, the poll numbers clearly have now shifted in mitt romney's favor. in the new national poll out from the pew research center, governor romney is now tied with the president. romney trailed in this survey by 9 points before the debate. so that's a big shift toward mitt romney and away from barack obama in that poll. like wise in the new gallup poll, mr. romney polled even with the president after the debate erasing a 5-point advantage for the president. we have new polls from the swing states and near swing states. polls that include reaction to the first debate. in wisconsin today the president leads by just tw

to win is this was the most-watched debate since 1980 when ronald reagan ran against carter and there was only one debate that year. >> fox news is pulling out all the stops. check out the electoral p prediction map fox trotted out today. look at the red states. they gave mitt romney solid democratic states like new mexico and pennsylvania. really? polls should be a snapshot of the current state of the race and there's no doubt mitt romney is benefitting from his debate performance last week. but over "the new york times," the forecast shows president obama still holds a 70% chance of winning the election. the percentage is back in line with the state of the race before the political conventions. president obama made some gains after the dnc. mitt romney erase d those gains in the debate. so the race is back to where it was in august. eight years ago today, cnn poll after the first presidential poll put john kerry on top of george bush by one percentage point. the race is close. this should surprise no one in america. every vote is going to count. there's been bipartisan agr

was your first vote for president? >> ronald reagan. so, actually, i have a photograph of my grandfather, my father, my brother and myself all voting together at the same time, so -- >> it's a family tradition. so, you take this seriously. >> it was always a, you know, a big deal in our family. >> you voted for president obama last time around. what are the final considerations? >> issues around the federal government spending, how it affects our business. so, it is my life blood. and my future. >> dyer's business partner is -- she knows just how devastating these cuts could be to loudon. >> the dysfunctional process that brought us to the brink of this problem, which is going to be as serious a problem for our region as the fallout of the car industry was to detroit. it will be small businesses like ours that are going to be hit the most. it's projected 2 million jobs will be lost, half of which will be from small companies will be hit earliest and hardest. it's going to be very unfortunate. >> she sees this as a symptom of the dysfunction of congress. >> when you start asking questions

's writing in addition to that when you're president and this is why ronald reagan losses first debate on why george w. bush lost his first re-election debate. if you are brought, it's arguably longer than that but anybody -- nobody really tells you what to think and he just -- that is way we saw the president physically taken aback as romney went at him. the romney folks, the new months ago that the debate prep would be the manhattan project of their campaign, that was where they were going to flip the switch if that had any possibility and we saw a romney whose family for a long time have been encouraging the campaign, to let him be more of himself, to be less scripted. he resisted that so we saw him all come out. the problem for him now, he has to do it two more times and there are number of countries who will tell you one problem is you only get one speak attack. [laughter] >> i will on to apologize to any of the ambassadors who are insulted by mike. [laughter] david letterman because one of the things hearing the obama camp's series of excuses and explanations for his performance, david

the specifics? do you know exactly what you're doing? >> look at what mitt romney -- look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together out of a framework to lower tax rates and broaden the base and worked together to fix that. what we're saying is here's our framework. lower tax rates 20%. we raise about $1.2 trillion through income taxes. we forego $1.1 trillion in loopholes and deductions. what we're saying is deny those loopholes and deductions to higher income taxpayers so more of their income is taxed which has a broader base of translation so we can lower tax rates across the board. here's why i'm saying this. what we're saying -- >> i hope i get time to respond. >> you'll get time. >> we want to work with the congress on how best to achieve this. that means successful -- >> no specifics again. >> what we're saying is lower tax rates 20%, start with the wealthy. work with congress to do it. >> you guarantee this math will add up. >> six studies have guaranteed -- six studies have verified this would add up. >> vice president biden. >> i'll come back in a second then, ri

congress. >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to broaden the base and lower tax rates. what we're saying is, here is our frame work. lower tax rates 20%. we raise about $1.2 trillion through income taxes. we forego about $1.1 trillion in loopholes and deductions. so what we're sayg is s >>et to lower tax rates across the board. here's why i'm saying this. >> i hope i'm getting a timed response. >> you'll get time. >> we want to work with congress on how best to achieve this. that means successful -- >> no specifics, again. >> what we're saying is lower tax rates 20%. start with the wealthy. work with congress. >> can you guarantee this math will add up? >> absolutely. >> six study advisory guaranteed. six study advisory verified this math adds up. >> vice president biden. vice president biden. >> let me translate. let me have a chance to translate. >> i'll come back in a second then, right? >> i was there when ronald reagan -- he gave specifics to what he was going to cut, number one, in terms of tax expenditures. number two, 97% of the small busine

, ronald reagan was not engaged in every detail, he could have the stam no-- stamina to do t but obama is engaged in everything. and i do think there is a sense of fat agency that one senses around the white house and one senses around him. nd so to get the passion that he had in 2008, i think is just hard given everything he's been through. >> you think that explains, mark, partly what happened? >> it may well, judy. 48 hours later, first of all, just a personal note, i have speculated on debate night that the president's passive performance and it was quite passive, listless, may have been attributed in part to john kerry, his sparring partner in the prep sessions who is a leading contender to be secretary of state maybe not going tough toe-to-toe to him. my subsequent reporting has, in fact, contradicted that. john kerry, i was told by two eye witnesses was actually tougher inside than mitt romney was with barack obama. >> woodruff: so that's not it. >> no, i don't think that-- i do think what we concluded before, at least i heard several wise ople say, presidential debates don't ma

that in the 1980s under a republican president, ronald reagan and a democratic president bill clinton. >> and gdp was 4.8%. 4.5% in one case. 4.3%. i can find economists who will tell me we'll have that kind of growth rate. >> we should aspire to 12 million jobs. i should aspire to look like brad pitt. that won't happen either. thank you for coming on the show. coming up something bocandidate on. >> if somebody gets an advanced degree i would staple that diploma to their green card. >> as soon as they get an advanced degree we send them home to create jobs somewhere else. >> immigrant entrepreneurs could be a powerful force but u.s. policy is standing in the way. here to here. this bigger screen goes from here to here. now that's either a) an amazing coincidence .. or b) a dazzling display of common sense. pretty sure it's the common sense thing. have more fiber than other leading brands. they're the better way to enjoy your fiber. >>> friday's jobs numbers underscore something we knew. we need more jobs. how do you create them. one answer may surprise you. immigration. how does bringing more peo

of bipartisanship, that he praised the fact that tip o'neill and ronald reagan had worked together when he has spent the last year sucking up to the tea party is something that the president should have -- >> here is robert gibbs defending the president on "meet the press." gibbs tried to tackle romney's debate flip-flops. i think he did it here. let's watch. >> it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappointed in the expectations that he has for himself. but, look, i think part of that was because, as i said earlier, we met a new mitt romney. we met a mitt romney that wanted to walk away from the central theory of his economic plan which is his tax cut. i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion or $5 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers, i think we need more of them. i mean, look, don't believe me, speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries in saying, look, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> well, one thing i have been saying about the campaign is the presiden

was trying to end the iran hostage crisis. it tha didn't happen until after he lost and president ronald reagan was sworn in. going back further to this. >> we believe that peace is at hand. >> well, days before the 1972 election, president nixon's national security adviser, henry kissinger, says an agreement is close on the vietnam war. nixon wins in a landslide. more recently, in the 2004 election, this osama bin laden video is released by al jazeera. hours later, president george w. bush goes to the microphone. >> let me make this very clear, americans will not be intimidated or influenced by an enemy of our country. >> and bush widens his lead, beating john kerry. chris, this election, the october surprise may not come until november the 2rd. that's the day the final jobs report is released that we're all watching. >> we are, and we're still waiting to see the full impact on the polls from this first jobs report. thank you so much, richard lui. and that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing & co." i'm chris jansing. thomas roberts is up next. hello, thomas. >> hi, chris. good morn

the difference between rising and falling take home pay, like they get that, and this was a point ronald reagan made many years ago. you get lower tax rates. your take home pay for education, for your work, for your home, for your mortgage, that really matters. i hope, and i'm going to ask you, will ryan follow in romney's footsteps, because i thought for the very first time romney really made that case last week, and it's helped him shoot up in the polls. >> oh, i think he l.as you know, paul ryan worked for jack kemp at empower america. he worked for castin who is one of the original supply-siders. he gets this stuff in the very heart of his being, and it's an important story to tell that in fact, if you look at the price of gasoline. obama has failed. if you look at the unemployment rate, obama has failed. the answer is not austerity. the answer is growth. if you have growth, can you mop up a lot of your problems, be prudent about spending, get back to a balanced budget which has only occurred in your lifetime because of a republican congress. >> last one, we're kind of short of time, but if

. >> it has never -- >> jack kennedy lower tax rates -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan. >> that's what you saul synap s synapses. now you're jack kennedy. >> the things that's so hard to analyze this debate, you could not watch the whole debate, you could start at the first minute and say what do you think about joe biden? and if people said, i kind of like him, then you like the debate and you thought biden won. if you said -- >> by the way, that's been said about joe biden since 1972. you either like him or you don't. >> he's joe biden. to joe's point, he's unapologetic about his joe bidenness and i think when he embodies being that, that economic populist streak and the stuff at the end that you played earlier, chris, with abortion when he talks from that sort of i'm an irish catholic, i know who the people are, that's when he's at his best. i would say some of the laughing and the derisiveness, particularly on foreign policy, i thought was a little bit off putting and a little over the top. >> i think that's right. i think it was well-said by both. you. joe klein,

. ronald reagan... >> oh, now, you're jack kennedy. >> woodruff: abortion also figured as a key issue in the debate. both men are catholics, and they were asked to describe their position, based on their faith. >> i don't see how a person can separate their public life from their private life or from their faith. and i respect people who don't agree with me on this. but the policy of a romney administration will be to oppose abortion, with the exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother. >> life begins at conception. that's the church's judgment. i accept it in my personal life. i just refuse to impose that on others, unlike my friend here, the congressman. i do not believe that we have a right to tell other people that women, they... they can't control their body. it's a decision between them and their doctor, in my view. and the supreme court-- i'm not going to interfere with that. >> woodruff: biden warned a conservative supreme court majority would overturn a woman's right to choose. ryan, who's on record favoring such a move, said abortion policy is best made by elected l

in europe since 1945 i think i would credit the u.s. military, ronald reagan and the a-bomb. >> right. >> more than i would the eu and the bureaucrats in brussels. >> we bail them out. we protectioned them all those years and reagan's the guy that ended communism, but the head of the peace prize committee is blaming the united states for the european economic crisis. i read "the new york times" story incredulously. he said the demise of lehman brothers is the responsibility of the european crisis, not their overspending and not their overtaxes and not their excess government and not their excess entitlements, jimmy. it's all because of lehman brothers. >> listen. you have countries that are following every wrong thing to do to run a good economy and even what they're doing now, they're raising taxes. this is like a death wish and a suicide attempt by europe and not america's fault. >> i want to ask you which is worse? the peace prize to president obama in 2009 or giving the peace prize to the european union, which is worse? >> as a gambler would say that is a pick 'em situation. >> yo

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